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【测评】Velo Orange Crazy Bar

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都9102年了,你们还在用弯把?
本文作者:Alee Denham
原文链接:https://www.cyclingabout.com/velo-orange-crazy-bar-review/


IP属地:北京来自iPhone客户端1楼2019-02-18 13:25回复
    9102年了,看来我都好几千岁了


    IP属地:广东来自Android客户端2楼2019-02-18 13:27
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      I’ve been a consistent advocate of road handlebars for bicycle travel for some time. I really like the near/far/high/low hand locations, as well as the slightly different wrist angles. But a handlebar called the Velo Orange Casey’s Crazy Bar recently piqued my interest – so I bought a set.
      一直以来,我都是一个弯把的死忠粉。我真的很喜欢弯把远近高低都能兼顾到的把位设定,以及不同把位之间稍微不同的手腕角度。但是最近有一个叫做Velo Orange Crazy Bar的车把引起了我的兴趣,于是我买了一套来试了一下。


      IP属地:北京来自iPhone客户端3楼2019-02-18 13:30
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        What The?!
        This weird-looking ‘alt’ handlebar is a unique combination of a bullhorn and swept-back flatbar. The 400mm wide bullhorn section offers a stretched-out, aerodynamic position similar to the brake ‘hoods’ on a drop handlebar. The centre portion replicates the ‘tops’ of a drop handlebar. And this is all mated to a 45-degree sweptback section that is both ergonomic and wide for additional steering stability.
        The Crazy Bar is constructed using heat-treated aluminium which is fine for touring, but not intended for mountain bike use. That said, Velo Orange produce a steel version that is MTB-rated.
        Weight is very reasonable at 450 grams. That makes these bars lighter than many alt handlebars including the Jones Loop in both titanium and aluminium. The Crazy Bars come in both black or silver and can be purchased for just US $60.
        什么鬼?!
        这个异型把是一个由牛角把和后掠直把凑在一起的独特组合。(作者说的牛角把其实就是国内改折叠车经常会用到的TT把,把端有个模仿手变的翘起部分)400mm宽的牛角把部分提供了一个既让人舒展开来,又符合空气动力学的骑姿,这其实就类似于弯把上的手变头。中间的部分其实就和弯把的上把位一模一样。而所有这些类似于公路弯把的把位,都和一个45度的后掠把连在了一起。这既符合弯把把位的人体工程学,又提供了后掠把把位额外的转向稳定性。
        Crazy Bar的材质是热处理铝,这使得它比较适合旅行车使用,而不是山地车。Velo Orange生产的不锈钢版本才适用于山地车。
        至于Crazy Bar的重量,450g,这已经算是非常合理了。这已经比市面上许多异型把要轻,包括Jones Loop的钛合金和铝合金版本。Crazy Bar有黑色和银色两种颜色可选,只要60美元就可以买到,大概400出头的人民币。


        IP属地:北京来自iPhone客户端5楼2019-02-18 13:52
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          IP属地:北京来自iPhone客户端6楼2019-02-18 13:57
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            The Crazy Bar Geometry
            The total width of the Velo Orange Crazy Bar is 666mm. I’ve found this width to offer as much handlebar leverage as I need to tackle even the roughest dirt trails. The distance between the bullhorns is 400mm which feels really natural for me as a rather oversized human. They’re probably going to be on the wide side if you’re a small female, however.
            The sweptback section is the same 22.2mm bar diameter as a regular flat handlebar, fitting MTB shifters, Rohloff shifters and all the standard hydro or cable brake levers. The 22.2mm bar diameter extends to the ‘tops’ where it permits you to fit Paul ‘Thumbie’ shifters that use a hinge-clamp design. The bar diameter of the bullhorn section matches that of the ‘drops’ of a road handlebar. You can fit barend shifters to the end of the bullhorns, or perhaps even inverse brake levers (like those on a time trial bike).
            The handlebar clamp diameter is 25.4mm. This is the old MTB size while current stems are 31.8mm. Not a huge deal, but it did mean that I couldn’t use any of my spare 31.8mm stems.
            Crazy Bar的几何
            Crazy Bar的总宽度是666mm。我感觉即使是在我骑过的最烂的烂路上,这个宽度也已经提供了足够多的操控性。两个牛角之间的距离是400mm,就和公路弯把差不多,我体型很大,感觉抓起来很自然。不过,如果你是一个小女生的话,抓起来可能会感觉有点太宽了。
            后掠部分是和普通直把相同的22.2mm,这代表你可以安装常规的山地指拨,Rohloff转把、以及所有标准的油碟线碟V刹刹把。22.2mm的直径一直延伸到上把位,这允许你安装使用铰链夹固定的刹把、指拨以及Paul拇指指拨(Paul Thumbie shifters就是一个梁变/端变转换座,允许你用拇指来控制装在车把上的梁变)。牛角把部分的直径为23.8mm,这和常规公路弯把的下把位直径一样。你可以将把端指拨甚至是TT刹把装到牛角把的末端
            车把中心的直径为25.4mm。这是旧的山地车规格,而现代的规格一般都是31.8mm。这没什么大不了的,但也的确意味着我家里那么多31.8mm的把立都派不上用场了。


            IP属地:北京来自iPhone客户端8楼2019-02-18 14:36
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              好久以前就看过了,一直在寻找国产版本


              IP属地:江苏11楼2019-02-18 14:58
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                Other Good Things
                Off-Road Descending
                Compared to my road handlebars, the Crazy Bars offer so much more control. I’ve found I can really load up my front panniers, and be able to steer them with precision on some really rough sections of road. This can be attributed entirely to the additional width on offer.
                MTB Shifters
                I have a whole series of articles on this website dedicated to mating MTB derailleurs with road bike shifters to achieve lower gear ratios. I have a page which shows you all the ways to mount a Rohloff shifter on a road handlebar. I talk about the benefits of barend/friction shifters in multiple sections too. But all of these are irrelevant workarounds when it comes to the Crazy Bar – just fit your MTB derailleurs with your MTB shifters and enjoy.
                Brake Cables
                Brake cable changes are a real pain on road handlebars because the brake cables run underneath your bartape. With regular v-brake levers, you can open up the brake cables for a quick lube in a matter of seconds. My brakes have never felt snappier!
                其他好事
                烂路下坡
                和公路弯把比起来,Crazy Bar提供了更多的操控性。我发现我真的可以在前货架满载的情况下,在一些非常崎岖的道路上精确地操控车把。这完全多亏了后掠把位提供的额外宽度。
                山地指拨
                我在Cyclingabout上面发表了一大堆文章,讲如何将山地后拨和公路手变搭配在一起,以实现较低的传动比。我还有一篇文章,里面讲的都是用公路弯把搭配Rohloff内十四的各种千奇百怪的方法。我还讲了各种把端指拨搭配公路弯把的优点。但一旦你用上Crazy Bar,我之前讲的所有这些都不关你的事了。。直接用山地指拨来拉你的山地后拨,用Rohloff转把来变你的Rohloff花鼓吧。。。
                刹车线管
                弯把换刹车线管实在是一件很头疼的事情,因为刹车线管从把带下面走,换线管必须拆掉把带。但是使用普通的V刹刹把,你可以在几秒钟之内松开刹车线管,我刹车从来没有这么爽过!


                IP属地:北京来自iPhone客户端12楼2019-02-18 15:14
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                  宝熊 不是发过了吗


                  IP属地:浙江来自Android客户端15楼2019-02-18 15:35
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                    又想骗我买车把了,不上当不上当不上当~


                    IP属地:四川来自Android客户端17楼2019-02-18 16:55
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                      山马党再次飘过


                      IP属地:北京来自Android客户端18楼2019-02-18 19:22
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                        IP属地:江苏来自Android客户端19楼2019-02-18 19:26
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                          前排


                          IP属地:广东来自iPhone客户端20楼2019-02-18 20:22
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                            为弯把车架而设计?持保留看法


                            IP属地:上海21楼2019-02-18 21:25
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                              骗我进了弯把的坑,又来


                              IP属地:广东来自Android客户端22楼2019-02-18 21:58
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